We like to check up on old friends and people we knew back when. Most of you probably check Face Book, or My Space, or maybe Reunion.com. I check Dept of Corrections Inmate search pages and the Obituaries. While doing that very thing this weekend, I ran across a couple of guys I knew pretty well, one was a guy I considered a friend or as close as my old life allowed. The other guy I was anything but friends with. We will get back to these two in a minute.
People read some of the things I say and feel compelled to straighten me out, question my motives, point out where I'm wrong, and that's a good thing. I'm not knocking anyone for disagreeing with me, I will always welcome those comments and respect the opinions even if they differ from mine. Lately I've received some comments and a few emails taking me to task for my narrow views about young people who commit some pretty atrocious acts. The basic theme has been a lack of compassion on my part. A recent example would be the girl who decided to drown her newborn in the toilet. I got two emails calling me a hypocrite, an idiot, and a misogynist. I'll cop to the first two, but women have been busting my plums all my life and I'm still a fan. Some others felt that the baby killer wasn't totally to blame for what she did, that her environment and parents were culpable. The gist being that she wasn't born a killer, circumstance made her one. Now back to those two guys in the first paragraph.
I met Tony about 6 months in to my bit, he was a tall, awkward kid from Springfield Missouri. I'm pretty sure he was doing his time for auto theft. He was one of those guys that could still go either way when he got out. I always figured he would get out, get a job, raise his kids and be none the worse for his experience. Unfortunately I was wrong. I found him on the Missouri dept. of Corrections website. He is in the Crossroads in Cameron serving a life sentence. Seems he was out for a few years and became a chemist and consumer of his own product. On Google I found an appeal he filed which gave me a little more info. Long story short he took a shot at a cop and that's all she wrote.
The second guy I knew back in the 80's, and already knew he was locked up. Kevin is serving a federal Life sentence for murder and an ongoing criminal conspiracy or Rico act. The reason I stumbled upon him was because he is still filing appeals even though he has been locked up since 1990. His appeal is here. Kevin had a short career as a professional boxer, maybe 10 fights. He got his start in tough man competitions, which he won a few of. He was always a mean spirited prick, so he fell naturally in to his role that would earn him an all day long life sentence. He ended up killing a big time weed dealer. The details of his crime are in the appeal and its worth a read just for the back stabbing that goes on between the cast of characters. The long and short of it is that Keven killed the dealer so his boss wouldn't have to pay him. Keven's boss also tried to get another guy to kill Keven after he killed the dealer to make it look like a drug deal gone bad. High drama, and a good example of the snakes that populated the drug business.
Both of these guys came from decent families. They were both average or better intelligence. They both committed reprehensible acts. The thing is they made choices, one tried to shoot a cop and one killed someone for 10 grand.They had something in them that bypassed that small voice that tells us dont do it, that taking a life isn't like taking a car or beating up a guy for not paying his drug debt. Much like This Guy who I knew and wrote about, the live of others was something to be traded for their own gain. We like to explain away the really horrible shit that people do by blaming it on environment, poor parenting, poverty, lack of breast feeding , or countless other excuses. Excuses is the key word.
People want to believe that humans are somehow above acting on primal urges, that our humanity prevents us from taking a life simply because it suits a purpose. When they are proven wrong time and again, they fall back on the excuses I listed earlier. These people while well intentioned usually are clueless. They haven't lived with the type of people who place so little value on the lives of others. If they ever brush up on one of these types, if someone kills or harms one of their family or friends the attitude and sympathy suddenly dissolve. The person they once considered a victim of their childhood or mental illness becomes a rabid dog deserving death or life in prison. It's all a matter of perspective.
I've got my own theory. I think some of us are just born bad. Something is missing, the wiring is all fucked up. A battalion of shrinks and social workers cant fix whats broken. There is a line that most of us wont cross, we wont kill just because we can, or because we want to. Some of us can cross that line without hesitation or concern over the consequences. It doesn't matter if the line is crossed at 30 or 16, once its crossed there is no going back, there is no making amends or redemption. Some of us just need to be put away or put down. Both of these guys fall under that category, so did the girl who killed her child. Prison is full of people who would kill you just because, and they also walk among us. It's easy to try to blame it on circumstance and environment until they reach out and touch someone close to you, or you personally. Then all bets are off and the psychiatric theories and compassion disappear.
I agree how all the so-called "compassionate" people suddenly want to throw the switch on electric chair when the victim is related to them.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree. In fact, I don't like the idea of the death penalty and then some really awful killer comes along and my first impulse is to want to see them fry. If the victim was someone I knew or loved, all bets would be off as to my rage or want for revenge. I always fear some innocent will be executed though.
ReplyDeleteIt's a tough call.
Not sure if I TOTALLY agree, but these paragraphs are an interesting distillation of one of the themes in McCarthy's Blood Meridian.
ReplyDeleteIf you have read it yet, I recommend it. You'd totally dig it.
some people are born bad - I can agree with that. I also think some are made that way. I've met two kids that I firmly believe will grow up to kill. I'm happy they have both moved far away and don't want to live anywhere near either of them EVER. One was abused physically and mentally for as long as I knew him. The state had been called a number of times, but they kept sending the boys back home. By the time the boy reached middle school he was so angry he glowed.
ReplyDeleteThe other came from a stable home with parents that loved him and his siblings. Clueless parents who didn't want to admit there was a problem with EVERY pet they got accidentally died. The parakeet 'hung' itself on it's perch, the iguana drowned itself...the kitten must have fallen off the counter and broken it's leg.
One was beaten till he didn't care about other people's lives, but the other was just born that way.
The teen who killed her kid? Who knows, but that doesn't mean she gets a pass. She killed it. She doesn't care for other people's lives and she needs to be locked up.
I wonder if the sympathizers of the girl would sing the same sob-story tune if the murderer had been the father of the baby instead.
ReplyDeleteDid circumstances push him to far? Did society not provide him enough emotional support to cope with fathering a child at 17? Or would the story be blared across Fox, Nightline, Dateline, NBC, CBS, ABC, and MTV for a few weeks?
First, let me say I believe it is a just and an even loving act to hold all people accountable for their actions. It is discriminatory to hold some people to a lesser standard. However, for each heinous act, we should look at ourselves, as a society, and see if we have contributed to it.
ReplyDeleteAccording to research out of Harvard Medical school, it is estimated that 2 out of every 100 people born are sociopaths. This does not mean they are serial killers. You have to have other pathology involved to create blood lust. But, it does mean, they have no conscience and lack emotional involvement in anything the do. They are only able to mimic. Therefore, if a sociopath expresses remorse it is only an act. These people are truly dangerous.
With that said, I have to point out that in the Eastern part of the world, just as many sociopaths are born, and yet they do not exhibit as many aberrant behaviours as their Western brethren. It is theorized that eastern societies hold harmony and cooperation in high esteem, so that is what the sociopath mimics. Where as, in the West more value is placed on being "#1" and "winning" which may help to explain the narcissim of the western sociopath. We as a society must evaluate whether we contribute to the formation of such criminals by what we deem valuable. If we value money as powerful, do we, in an off-hand way, assist in making a person feel they need to make lots of money, with the consequence of some taking the easy route? i.e. selling drugs, stealing, etc.
One other point I would like to make, before I pass on the soap box, deals with mental illness. There are many murders committed by the mentally ill. Take the Virginia Tech shootings, that left 33 people dead. The perpetrator, Seung-Hui Cho exhibited serious signs of mental illness noticed by family and peers. Sadly, it would have been all but impossible to have had him institutionalized before the rampage occurred. There is a tremendous lack of mental health services. We, as a nation stigmatize mental health issues and refuse to fund the resources that may prevent these thing from occurring. We'd rather rant and rave about gun control than address the real issues.
My focus will always be on prevention first, before a heinous act is committed, and swift accountability after the act. Maria
Some people are just bad. Like you said born bad. Or made bad.
ReplyDeleteThe smarter ones go into business and make money because they're smarter, they can be themselves without doing the time.
Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, rather you're born bad or your life made you bad, cross the line and there should be justice. I just don't see long term imprisonment for the terminally bad (the criminally insane for instance) as the answer ( cough *execute* cough).I doubt anyone does have the answer- just opinions.
I get your point here, but I'm voluntarily going off track. Prisons full of murderers, etc.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the ones in prison for child support? Bad checks? The whole imprisonment thing is fucked.
If you can't deal with them, send them to prison.
If you've come to a conclusion, you've stopped thinking.
Not enough preventative measures, but by God we'll dump the funds into prisons.
Nice post, and as usual a great discussion in comments. Personally I believe that monsters are both born and built out of good folks. I don't see how we can differentiate in our response to them as a society tho.
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ReplyDeleteI have a question for you. If being a sociopath could be diagnosed as an actual physical trait, would you support singling those individuals out and forcing them to undergo some kind of indoctrination in Eastern philosophy?
By the way, I have serious doubts about your theory that Eastern or Oriental societies having less destructive sociopathic behavior. Even in a very button down society like Japan, there is some pretty sick behavior that is common place, like supposedly mature business men openly perusing pornographic magazines depicting beastiality while riding home on the subway. Every society has problems, and where Western societies have a strong individualistic drive that celebrates greed and gluttony, Eastern societies have a strong collective mentality that can lead groups of people to do some pretty horrendous things they would never do as individuals. Remember Ghenghis Khan, Tojo, and Pol Pot motivated people to commit genocide.
Has anyone else ever read Colin Wilson's "A Criminal History of Mankind?" It gives some interesting theories about the origins or motivations of criminal activity. One thing he said was that the criminal often takes the short cut to what he or she wants. But another big section of the book is about there being five percent of people with a will to dominance. Some are able to satisfy their will to dominance in normal ways, but some get thwarted and take out their will to dominance in criminal activity.
ReplyDeleteWilson had a chapter about Tamerlane being possibly the most cruel evil person who ever lived.
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