
Five Republican state senators want to crack down on welfare recipients addicted to drugs, by requiring them to submit to a drug test in order to get taxpayer assistance. Sounds reasonable, yes? I mean, we all know that anyone on welfare is just living the high life, watching Judge Joe Brown and Oprah, buying steak and shrimp with food stamps, and smoking copious amounts of high quality weed. Right? Well , not exactly.
Here's the skinny on the proposal. The proposals would only apply to recipients of cash assistance through Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, a federal program administered by the state. So, including food stamps, just how much does a single mother of 2 children get each month? 379 bucks a month, toss in food stamps for a whopping total of 750 bucks a month. Not for nothin, and not that I actually know anything about it, but good weed costs 300 to 400 an ounce. Shits not cheap, even Mexican shwag will run 100 plus an ounce. Toss in liquor and the occasional crack or meth binge, and there is no way in hell a person on welfare can afford to go on drug fueled binges or blaze the chronic 24/7. At least not on welfare money.
Oh snap, there goes this double M doofus on another unintelligible rant.
Hang in there imaginary italicized guy, I'm going somewhere with this.
One of the Republican sponsors of the bill, Stouffer, R-Napton, said taxpayers "are tired of being taken advantage of" by drug-addicted welfare recipients who they believe use their money to buy drugs.
Let's all say it together kids, Pandering to and playing off the fears of your constituency will get you reelected. The people who have proposed this, at first glance, seemingly reasonable measure, haven't produced any hard facts about the number of welfare recipients who abuse drugs, or the prevalence of substance abuse financed by tax dollars. Instead they offer up this bill based on as they call it " what folks believe".
Like most of you I'll admit that I've often assumed that welfare recipients are taking advantage of the system, and I believe, there's the B word again, I believe there is some abuse, that said, Tanf assistance is really about caring not for the adults, but the children of those adults. So lets say we run out and drop urine tests on every family who gets 8 or 9 grand a year in assistance through various programs. Lets assume, based on popular belief, that 1/3 come back dirty. Now lets snatch those bennies from them. So we now have a drug addicted, meth or crack smoking, blunt puffing, single parent with no source of income to feed, cloth, or shelter her 2 kids. If we continue on in our hypothesized belief game, we now have kids who were already living below poverty level, now completely off the grid. And if the parent is in fact a drug addict, where do you think any money is going to go?
My point is, even a shitty system is better than nothing when it comes to putting food in mouths and roofs over heads, especially where children are concerned. If the people trying to pass this unenforceable bill where really concerned, if they really wanted to save their constituency from doling out tax money for public assistance, one would think they would go the route of addressing the underlying causes of the problem. Teen pregnancy, fatherless homes, education.
Rather than address what people believe, which is based not so much on data or facts, but prejudice and hype, maybe we should look at ways to make these women rise above their lot in life. TANF assistance is limited to 60 months. How about limiting it to 24 or 36 months, require the mother to get a GED and some vocational training? How about requiring some form of birth control while on assistance? Maybe if we address the core problems, just maybe the young woman who made some seriously piss poor choices can turn it around. And just maybe she can instill her children with core beliefs and values that will equip them to avoid the pitfalls that lead to the revolving door of poverty and public assistance. Call me a fuckin loon, but we might see a drop in gang violence, street crime, drug abuse, high dropout rates, the list goes on.
We can go one of two routes here. We can try to placate the section of society who thinks folks are living high on the tax payer hog, or we can try to fix the underlying cause of the real problem. For once, this isn't an issue of race. The highest rate of welfare recipients is found in rural areas, more white folks than black. The actual current numbers are hard to find, but as best I can tell it's a 60/40 split white vs black.
You can argue that people on welfare don't want to get ahead, they are content sitting on their collective ass. I'm sure that is a partial truth, in some cases. But really, how comfortable of a life can you be leading at 750 a month? Would requiring single mothers to further their education solve the welfare problem? Not completely, but it's a pretty good start. while we are at it, maybe if we forced the clowns who don't have the sense to slip on a Jimmy cover, to pay for the kids they father and forget, that might also help the problem. Politicians like to pander to our fears, or mistaken beliefs, our ingrained prejudice. It's effective, and it's a whole lot easier than fixing the real problem. When you think about it, both sides of the political coin play a part in the issue. The liberals make it easy to stay poor, and the right point out what deadbeats poor folk are. It's a win win, at least for them.
This shit makes me so mad. It is the same old Reagan rhetoric about welfare queens driving cadillacs. These republicans are entirely without compassion
ReplyDeleteFrom the article linked in your post, it sounds like if they need to do anything, it would be to open some more drug treatment centers:
ReplyDelete"But the state's drug and alcohol abuse treatment programs currently have a waiting list of 3,000 and can't handle more, said Colleen Coble, chief executive officer of Missouri Coalition Against Domestic & Sexual Violence."
Ed i'm not so sure that drug treatment is called for, I cant find any reputable studies suggesting that drugs are an issue. Education on the other hand, marketable skills, now there is a documented well established problem regrding poverty.
ReplyDeleteEverybody knows somebody who abuses the welfare system. My own brother did it for over 20 years with a few temp jobs here and there. His drug of choice was alcohol. His wife didn't ever work either even though she was 6 hours short of a college degree which she never got. They're both in their 50's now. Brother now has congestive heart failure and is on disability instead of welfare/medicaid, so now he really can't work. Their 3 kids grew up on welfare and after years of minor trouble with the law and none graduating from high school, they are all now adults and working in the fast food industry. At least they are working.
ReplyDeleteWe all tried to help them, encourage them. We gave them furniture, clothes, money, a used car, etc. They sold the stuff at garage sales, wrecked the car.
We finally came to the conclusion they were happy enough living as they did. As the years went by all initiative was lost but they managed to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table, beer and cigs on public assistance so that was good enough for them.
So, it could be hard drugs, could be alcohol, could be misfortune, but as long as there are people who are willing to live on the public dole and people who are willing to give it to them, nothing will change.
Good points JOOLS! For some scammers, the welfare money is just icing, MM acts like it is the cake. Nope, MM, they sponge and get funds anywhere they can without contributing. The welfare check is just another freebie. Why not do the testing and see what it shows as a pilot project. If employed people have to submit, why not the unemployed?
ReplyDeleteDLC: why is it the same old shit? haven't u heard of multigenerational poverty spawned by welfare? It is destructive to the human spirit. Why not combine compassion with responsability? Oh yeah, because if we just make the Republicans the bad guys, we don't have to actually SOLVE anything, not ever.
actually welfare queens moved on to better cars. if you play the system just right you can have an OK living without ever going to work. most people are not in it for these reasons, but if that's your thing it's not so hard to do.
ReplyDeleteI don't care if they drug test welfare recipients but I like the analogy with people who work, I am pretty sure my job has some kind of right to randomly drug test me plus I had to do it when I hired on. Hard to argue that people on government assistance should be exempt from this.
You're a fuc*kin loon. And a starry eyed idealist. I believe your idea would make a difference. And for that very reason they would never let it happen. They don't want solutions to problems. They want votes.
ReplyDeleteNot everyone abuses the system, not everyone is happy sponging off the government, not all of us want to stay how we are.
ReplyDeleteI work a full time job, am a single parent, I sell Mary Kay, clip coupons, and got accepted to college yet I still have to rely on the government for assistance. I am doing everything I can to better me and my daughter's lives. She is on governemnt medical insurce due to severe chronic asthma and we get about $120 in food stamps. Now to add insult to injury (no pun intended) I got re injured at work (was injured 02/02/09 and had surgery 06/04/09) and can't work until I consult another Orthopedic Surgeon.
I am not happy this way but I need the assistance. I don't do drugs, I don't get child support, I don't do alchol and you can't live high on the hog on $110. Any more reforms and I could lose my benifits. If that happens then I don't know how I could feed my daughter.
All drug testing will do is take away from the kids.
A modest proposal: All Senators and Congressmen must take random drug tests. Any found to have taken illegal drugs will be suspended w/o pay for the legislative session.
ReplyDeleteAlso, they all must take blood-alcohol tests before voting any bill into law. Blow anything over .08 and you escorted out of the chamber on C-Span.
Result: fewer drugs will be illegal and fewer laws will be enacted because of a lack of a quorum.
I'm also a single Mother raising a child, the last of 3. I have a job which pays less than 28,000 a year. I don't get child support from my 9 year olds "sperm donor", I don't get assistance of any kind as I "make to much money". What I do get is alot of love from my child who has learned that "stuff" is not as important as being in a consistant and loving home. We don't have alot and we live from paycheck to paycheck. We do have each other and a very helpful extended family. But unlike the people living off the "system" I am required to random drug/alcohol tests at my place of work. Why isn't a Welfare or Food System receipient required the same rules? A paycheck is a paycheck and you should have to earn the right.
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ReplyDeleteNot every employer requires drug testing. You are operating on the assumption that an unwarranted invasion of your privacy is okay. It isn't. My point is that drug testing for welfare recipients is going to be based on what people believe or think, not based on any fact or evidence, but on prejudice and stereotype. My point is, we should be looking for a way to get people to rise above the poverty level, become independent and productive. Rather than looking for some way to cut them off. Then folks wouldnt have to worry about people getting a free ride. A 20 year old woman, or an 18 year old woman, etc. , who has 2 kids, no education or marketable skills, is never going to rise above her lot in life without some help. So maybe rather than worrying if they smoked a joint, we should figure out a way to get her to be productive and self supporting. Or we can just take them off of welfare, then complain because she and her children perpetuate the ongoing crime and drug problems.
The fact that you are capable of being self sustaining, is admirable. But you assume everyone is equipped to do likewise, and thats just not the case.
MM you are correct to a point but I have seen my fair share of abuse in the welfare/Medicaid system! Some people abuse prescription drugs that are on Medicaid who usually are on Welfare too...hopping ER to ER until it is caught in the system. The entire entitlement system needs re-hulled! I do agree education, training, birth-control, etc. should be a key issue but I also think a drug screening is not that far off the mark either! I personally have seen it more times that I would like to count!!
ReplyDeleteThe last time I noticed someone using food stamps she had two cell phones on her belt and strolled out to a land rover. I drove away confused in my Honda Accord.
ReplyDeleteWe have single people on food stamps. People in rehab are on food stamps.
ReplyDeletePeople with kids who get help with money or food stamps fine. Only the kids will suffer more if what little they do get gets taken away from them.
Now single people who get stamps they should get drug tested. Every single person who gets stamps that I HAVE MET sell the stamps for cash or drugs. Taking stamps away from them for a dirty U.A. doesn't hrt anyone but them.